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Tuesday, November 28, 2006

Quebec Nation Policy Withdrawn

Mr. Hogg and Mr. Belanger from the PLC(Q) have withdrawn their Quebec nation resolution.

At first I was strongly opposed to this happening and dismayed when I heard the news. There has been so little debate on this and no chance for the membership to have their views heard except within their own leadership campaign (and I should add, Team Kennedy was VERY thorough in hearing the views of its supporters).

However, I then realized something: If the resolution is withdrawn (which it has been), it cannot and will not become the official policy of the Liberal Party of Canada!

And in my opinion, ladies and gentlemen of the Liberal blogosphere, that is a MASSIVE victory.

See you in Montreal!

Monday, November 27, 2006

Former Multiculturalism Minister Raymond Chan will not support Nation motion

RELEASE: Richmond MP Raymond Chan will not support Nation motion



Office of the Hon. Raymond Chan, P.C., M.P

Member of Parliament for Richmond





HARPER FAILS CANADA

Statement by the Honourable Raymond Chan on the Quebecois nation resolution





For Immediate Release - 27 November 2006



Today the House of Commons will vote on a resolution which would recognize the Quebecois as a “nation” within a united Canada. As a Canadian, I am endlessly proud and appreciative of the immense contributions Quebeckers have made to our social, economic, and cultural advancement as Canadians, and of all that we have learned and achieved together through the incredible strength of our unity. However, as former Minister of Multiculturalism and as Member of Parliament for Richmond, I have many serious concerns about this motion and I have decided that I cannot support it.



I. This vision of Canada is wrong



This motion is dangerous and does not reflect the vision of Canada that I believe in. I do not believe that Canada is a nation of nations or just a community of communities. I believe that Canada is one remarkably inclusive nation which aims to fully and equally empower all of its citizens with official bilingualism and comprehensive multiculturalism. These rights to inclusion and equality are firmly protected and enhanced by our Charter of Rights and Freedoms.



II. The motive is wrong



Since taking office, this Prime Minister’s actions have been reliably opportunist and often reckless, placing short-term political gain far ahead of consideration for long-term national consequences. Our political leaders should never play dangerous political games with such important Canadian issues simply to stop their freefall in the polls. For Duceppe and Harper, this issue is clearly more about crass political advantage than it is about respect for Quebec’s vital and uniquely important place and role within Canada.



III. The process is wrong



National unity is an issue that matters to all Canadians, and all Canadians have a stake in our future together as a country. It is not in the spirit of democratic renewal that this country needs to proceed with another crucial national issue with less than a few hours of debate and no grassroots consultation or participation. The Canadian people deserve a meaningful chance to make their voices heard.



IV. This entire approach is wrong



Prime Minister Stephen Harper, the de facto leader of the Canadian federalist cause, has failed us and failed Canada.



This motion could play into the hands of the separatists, who will only continue to demand and extract increased concessions and advantages from the federalists. Therefore, this motion is a lose-lose proposition for Quebeckers and all Canadians. It irresponsibly and unnecessarily raises certain expectations and concedes ground to the separatists.



I strongly believe that Quebeckers and all Canadians are far more interested in decisions which result in good governance (such as principled positions on climate change, childcare, balanced policy in Afghanistan, and economic growth) rather than simply good politics. We need action on issues that matter to the wellbeing of hardworking Canadian families. The last thing we need is another long and divisive debate on identity and the constitution.



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"The Titanic is Turning"

Best analogy for today I've heard or read. When will some people realize that if we hit the darn iceberg there just aren't enough lifeboats? I really don't like the part of the movie (or history) when the ship breaks in two.

Oh metaphors.

From Next Face:

The Titanic is Turning.

In the past 5 minutes Harper has lost an Intergovernmental Affairs Minister and Ken Dryden is helping to nail the rudder back on to the S.S. Liberal with this statement. Thanks to Mark Watton at nottawa for the text.

Special thanks go out to Gerrard Kennedy for inspiring his party.
Hang on to your hats boys and girls this is going to be one crazy week.

Posted by Arnone & Co. at Monday, November 27, 2006

Kennedy momentum keeps gaining

the latest from www.gerardkennedy.ca and The Dan Report:



BRAMPTON- SPRINGDALE RIDING PRESIDENT VICKY DHILLON ENDORSES KENNEDY

BRAMPTON, ON - Vicky Dhillon, president of the Brampton-Springdale Federal Liberal Riding Association and a recently elected Brampton city councillor today announced he was endorsing Gerard Kennedy for the Liberal Party of Canada leadership.


"I am very impressed with Gerard's candidacy," Dhillon explained. "He has a strong set of policies on important issues from immigrant success to building a spirit of enterprise to party renewal. Gerard is also the candidate best positioned to unite our party and present a passionate vision to Canadians in the next election."


Kennedy enthusiastically welcomed Dhillon to the campaign.


"I am very pleased with our growing momentum in Greater Toronto and right across the country," Kennedy said. "Vicky Dhillon has a great deal of experience in Liberal circles and is joining the council of one of our largest and fastest growing cities. I value his support and his perspective and welcome him to our campaign."


Kennedy's campaign was recently endorsed by John Laforet, president of the Scarborough Guildwood riding association on the opposite side of the Greater Toronto Area and continues to build support in every riding across Canada .


The riding of Brampton-Springdale is held by MP Ruby Dhalla.



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INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS MINISTER RESIGNS OVER NATION QUESTION

November 27, 2006

Harper cabinet minister quits over Quebec nation motion


OTTAWA (CP) - Prime Minister Stephen Harper's stand on Quebec as a nation appears to have cost him a cabinet minister.

MP Garth Turner and other sources say Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Michael Chong is quitting his post over a government motion that recognizes the Quebecois as a nation within a united Canada.

Chong, who also held the minister of sport portfolio, is expected to hold a news conference later today.

"KENNEDY OPPOSES HARPER-DUCEPPE NATION MOTION"

Kennedy Opposes Harper-Duceppe Nation Motion/ KENNEDY S'OPPOSE À LA MOTION HARPER-DUCEPPE SUR LA NATION

Monday November 27, 2006

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

KENNEDY OPPOSES HARPER-DUCEPPE NATION MOTION

Today, Liberal Leadership Candidate Gerard Kennedy issued the following statement:

I cannot support the Harper-Duceppe motion currently before the House.

The Prime Minister's responsibility is to protect the constitution and the unity of the country. This motion does neither. It is wrong for Canada.

The motion creates an unmistakable expectation by giving official legitimacy to the "idea" of nation, without defining it. This is an irresponsible step, as there has never been greater need for honest dialogue between Quebecers and the rest of Canadians. Rather than improving national unity, the motion will exacerbate divisions and generate misunderstanding in Quebec
and across Canada. It is for this reason that throughout this campaign I have consistently opposed the "officialization" of the notion of Quebec as a nation.

Canada is a united country that must be constantly defined by our common values and a shared purpose. The introduction of this resolution contradicts this need and instead sows division over uncertain symbols.

I respect the sense of identity shared by many Quebecers, reflecting a common culture, language, history and accomplishment and I will continue to promote that identity, rather than playing divisive political games with it. Further, this motion does nothing to recognize, and potentially takes away from, aboriginals, Acadians and other official minority groups with a distinct culture and heritage within Canada.

I deplore that anyone would use this as a wedge issue for political gain.

As Liberals, we have to understand that there is no easy way to rebuild the party in Quebec but we must stay resolute in our vision for the entire country. I want Quebecers to know that as Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada I will forge a common understanding of the best way for Quebecers and all Canadians to work together on our real challenges: globalization benefiting all families not just a few; an aging population and the growing divide between rural and urban regions.

Out of respect for the interim leader Bill Graham, I am not requesting that any caucus member supporting my candidacy change their vote to reflect my position.

Canadians will know that I do not feel bound by this vote or this process.

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POUR DIFFUSION IMMÉDIATE

KENNEDY S'OPPOSE À LA MOTION HARPER-DUCEPPE SUR LA NATION

Aujourd'hui, le candidat à la direction du Parti libéral du Canada, Gerard Kennedy, émettait la déclaration suivante :

Je ne peux appuyer la motion Harper-Duceppe déposée en Chambre. La responsabilité du Premier ministre est de protéger la constitution et l'unité du pays. Cette motion ne fait ni l'un, ni l'autre. Ceci n'est pas bon pour le Canada.

Il est indéniable que la motion va créer des attentes en attribuant une légitimité officielle au «concept » de nation, sans pour autant le définir. Ceci est un geste irresponsable, d'autant plus qu'il n'y a jamais eu un besoin aussi grand pour un dialogue honnête entre les gens du Québec et les autres Canadiens. Plutôt que de préserver l'unité nationale, cette motion vient exacerber les divisions et génère l'incompréhension au Québec et à travers le pays. C'est pour cette raison que tout au long de cette campagne, je me suis continuellement opposé à ce que l'on officialise la
notion de la nation québécoise.

Le Canada est un pays uni qui doit constamment être défini en fonction de nos valeurs communes et de notre but collectif. Le dépôt de cette motion contredit ce besoin et vient, au contraire, créer la division sur des symboles qui sont mal définis.

Je respecte le sens d'identité que partagent plusieurs Québécoises et Québécois. Il est le fruit d'une culture, d'une langue, d'une histoire et de réalisations communes, et je vais continuer à promouvoir cette identité plutôt que de l'exploiter pour des intrigues politiques qui divisent notre pays. Je déplore que quiconque ose exploiter cette identité comme levier dans le but d'obtenir des gains politiques. De plus, cette motion ne fait rien pour la reconnaissance des autochtones, des Acadiens ou d'autres groupes minoritaires qui ont une culture et un héritage distincts.

En tant que Libéraux, nous devons comprendre qu'il n'y a pas de moyens faciles pour rebâtir le parti au Québec, mais nous devons demeurer fidèles à notre vision pour l'ensemble du pays. Je veux que les Québécoises et les Québécois sachent, qu'à titre de chef du Parti libéral du Canada, je vais m'efforcer de forger une compréhension commune quant au meilleur moyen pour aider les gens du Québec et l'ensemble des Canadiens à travailler ensemble sur les vrais défis auxquels nous sommes confrontés : une mondialisation qui doit profiter à toutes les familles et non à un nombre restreint d'entre elles; une population vieillissante et l'écart grandissant entre les régions rurales et urbaines.

De façon à respecter notre chef intérimaire, Bill Graham, je ne demande pas que les membres du caucus qui appuient ma candidature changent leur vote en fonction de ma position.

Les Canadiens comprendront que je ne me sens pas lié par ce vote ou ce processus.

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Renewal Chief Axworthy endorses Gerard Kennedy

The rumours from a few weeks ago have now come true. Thomas Axworthy, the recent co-chair of the Federal Liberal Renewal Commission and former Principal Secretary to Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, has now officially endorsed Gerard Kennedy to lead the Liberal Party.


Party's renewal committee chief Axworthy throws support to Kennedy
-Montreal Gazette

Liberal leadership candidate Gerard Kennedy received a timely boost as he entered the last week of the race for his party's top job, landing the endorsement on the weekend of blue-chip Grit Tom Axworthy, who recently headed the party's renewal committee.


Gazette Article

Globe Article

If I was a leadership candidate, and could choose one week to have all the momentum in the world, I'd choose this one. Gerard's got it. Real Liberal Change and renewal are on their way!

Sunday, November 26, 2006

Polls work better when not poll-arized

When given options, it seems Quebeckers are pretty clear. Not all of these choices are mutually exclusive, but the question is clear and the response choices are as well. It seems the best formula/mix in terms of what Quebeckers actually want or identify with as a province's population is to have equal federalism in a Canada that respects their dictinctiveness, without getting into saying Quebec is a nation and staying away from formal expressions or entrenchments of nationalism.
More polls should be done with as many options as this one (not just "Nation or not" or "Ten equal provinces or not"), although the sample size for this poll is already twice the usual average and the margin of error is small.

KENNEDY STANDS UP FOR CANADA!!!

THAT's our Gerard, folks!


Grit leadership hopeful Kennedy bucks tide, opposes Quebec nation resolution

By JOAN BRYDEN

OTTAWA (CP) - Liberal leadership hopeful Gerard Kennedy has decided to buck the tide of political opinion, coming out against a parliamentary motion recognizing Quebecers as a nation within a united Canada.

The Canadian Press has learned that Kennedy will issue a statement Monday opposing the motion, just as the House of Commons prepares to debate the surprise resolution introduced by Prime Minister Stephen Harper last week.

In so doing, Kennedy will become the only Liberal leadership contender to reject the motion, which has been embraced with varying degrees of unease by his seven rival candidates, Harper's Conservatives, most Liberal MPs and the New Democrats. Even the separatist Bloc Quebecois has come on side.

A senior Kennedy source said the third-place contender believes the motion is irresponsible and wrong for Canada.

Kennedy believes the motion raises expectations of eventual constitutional entrenchment of Quebec nationhood without defining what is meant by the word nation. Moreover, he is worried that the motion will deepen divisions in the country, the source said.

Kennedy, a former Ontario education minister, does not have a seat in the Commons but is issuing his statement in advance of the vote on Harper's motion, expected late Monday.

Kennedy's decision could give him a boost at this week's leadership convention among Liberals who are adamantly opposed to recognizing Quebec nationhood but have no other outlet for their concern.

Leadership front-runner Michael Ignatieff has enthusiastically endorsed Harper's motion, claiming that the push to recognize Quebec's nationhood began with his campaign. His principal rival, Bob Rae, and the lone Quebec contender, Stephane Dion, have grudgingly supported the motion despite reservations.

Kennedy has only two per cent support among Quebec delegates to the leadership convention in Montreal and, therefore, little to lose by distinguishing himself from his rivals.

He could also be hailed as a hero by the so-called Trudeau federalists in the party, who agree with the late Liberal icon Pierre Trudeau's adamant rejection of anything that smacks of special status for Quebec. The former prime minister's sons, Justin and Alexandre Trudeau, have spoken out against the motion. Justin last week endorsed Kennedy.

Ignatieff started the debate over Quebec's identity by coming out early in the campaign in favour of recognizing the province as a nation and eventually enshrining that status in the Constitution. The Quebec wing of the party subsequently proposed a resolution, to be considered at this week's convention, recognizing Quebec as a nation within Canada and calling for creation of a task force to advise the next leader on the best way to "officialize" that status.

That resolution sparked a ferocious debate within the party. Ignatieff supported it but his rivals, particularly Rae, Dion and Kennedy, opposed it, fearing it would lead the country into another bout of corrosive constitutional wrangling.

Last week, the Bloc tried to drive the wedge deeper by introducing a motion calling on the Commons to recognize Quebecers as a nation - with no mention of Canada. Harper pre-empted the Bloc by introducing his own counter-motion.

Harper's carefully chosen wording - specifying that the Quebecois, not the province, form a nation "within a united Canada" - won over Dion, Rae and most Liberal MPs.

The fate of the more controversially worded Liberal resolution remains to be settled and the issue could yet rupture the party's leadership convention.

For a United, Equal Canada

We, the undersigned Canadians, oppose recognition of any province as a 'nation,' and call on our elected representatives to work instead for a united, equal Canada.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned

Kennedy '06

Canada's next generation of leadership!

The afternoon of the long knives

Here we go again, folks.

From the Ottawa Sun:

Harper did not inform the Bloc of his intention to put forth the competing motion, the Bloc strategist said, but the Liberals and the NDP received copies of the motion.

"They went behind our backs," the strategist told La Presse.

Saturday, November 25, 2006

Meterological Imbalance resolved!

"Tomorrow, peace in the middle east!"

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is snowing in Vancouver. I'm not making this up.

This is especially hilarious to me after what I posted yesterday (see below).

Climate change is afoot without a plan, Quebec is a "nation", it's snowing big-time in Vancouver.

Stephen Harper clearly wasn't kidding when he said we wouldn't recognize Canada when he was done with it!

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Yesterday's post:


The meteorological imbalance

Bizarre:
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Enviroment Canada's Montreal forecast for Wednesday November 29th:
High: 15 Low: 4 with Scattered Showers

Enviroment Canada's Vancouver forecast for Wednesday November 29th:
High: -4 Low: -5 with Snow
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Not fair. Not fair at all! The one time Vancouver will get some snow this year, I'm going to miss it. We never get any snow.

I demand that the federal government immediately resolve this meteorological imbalance. The meteorogical duality of this country is a reality that must be recognized. My right to snow should be equal regardless of wherever I happen to be in my country.

Perhaps an equalization formula can be arrived at where provinces with less snow can have transfers made to them from those with more. However, if a program is devised to increase British Columbia's snow transfers, we should naturally be permitted to opt out with full compensation. After all, snow flakes are not an exclusively federal jurisdiction.

Should the federal government fail to act with the greatest possible urgency, we will have little choice but to form a temporary ad-hoc coalition (to be referred to as the Ice Bloc) until such a time that our grievances and demands can be reckoned with. We will demand that a referendum be held to determine if British Columbians actually do indeed want more snow, and then we will promptly proceed to disregard the results (The rest of Canada's politicians will too, of course).

The House of Commons will officially recognize the distinctiveness of our weather systems, their common history, territory, and molecular makeup, but we of course, while supporting this, will declare it a meaningless act and continue to extract more snow as we threathen to secede and join snowier Alaska.

Eventually though, when grassroots British Columbians and all Canadians start challenging us on the basis of our own fundamental irrationality, we'll learn to get our heads out of the clouds.

We will learn, just as all of Canada will learn, that as the old debates get more heated, our relationships only become colder, and we all lose sight of each other through the blizzard. We will learn that it is indeed possible to warm up to each other without having a meltdown.

That's the hope anyway, that's the dream. Meanwhile though, it seems we, and the ambitions we hold in trust for the people, are just continually snowed in.

In my view, we'll eventually learn that what we need is a few shovels, not more snow.

We'll learn when Canada stops throwing snow at us!

JUSTIN TRUDEAU ENDORSES GERARD KENNEDY


Fantastic. Absolutely Fantastic, and very exciting! Justin Pierre James Trudeau, accomplished youth and environment activist, outspoken liberal, and the son of one of the most successful Quebec and Canadian political leaders ever, has endorsed Gerard Kennedy to lead the Liberal Party of Canada.

Talk about a winning team!
Canada's next generation of leadership!

"I would strongly encourage people, particularly here in Quebec to look at Kennedy a bit more closely. While he may not be an instinctive choice for Quebecers, I think that what he (stands for) with respect to social justice, with respect to the economy, with respect to what he understands of people, the people, he is the one who understands more than the others the real needs of Quebecers.'' - Justin Trudeau

"“To my mind, Gerard represents the best chance for creating genuine solutions to appeal to all Canadians." - Justin Trudeau

“This has been a party that has drifted away from the grassroots toward the corporate donorship that has always worked but no longer works in Canada right now. We need to be really brave about taking a fresh look and listening to people and sharing the power and the privilege of power that the Canadian people keeps granting the Liberal Party ... there is really one choice and that's Gerard. - Justin Trudeau


Globe Article 1


Globe Article 2


Globe Article 3


La Presse Article 1

Friday, November 24, 2006

I got 99 problems but nationalism ain't one!

Seriously people.

As much as I love spouting out on the nation subject every time something comes to mind as I plug away on my federalism essay (or every time Stephen Harper, and then Gilles Duceppes COMPLETELY CHANGE accepted understandings of their rational preferences!)....

The Quebecois/Quebec difference is not a good reason to support Harper's motion!

Sure, Quebecois is better than "Quebec" because it doesnt confer nationhood on a substate structure, but the alternative is, by far too many people's interpretation, still confering nationality on an ethnicity! And if you're arguing, "Well, no, 'Quebecois' means all Quebecers," then you are definitely contradicting your earlier argument that it should not be a recognition that has anything to do with the borders of Quebec.

Our nation, our country, our CANADA shouldn't be about birth or borders, but rather it should be based on beliefs, values, rights, common equal citizenship, and mutual commitment. It's about the unity of partnership, not internal divisions, based neither upon which province we were born in or live in, or what our ethnicity might be.

I'm not saying sociological nations don't exist, certainly and of course they do, I just don't think Parliament has any role in defining their nature or parameters. As I've said, I see the role of MPs as representing their constituents, not defining them.

The meteorological imbalance

Bizarre:
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Enviroment Canada's Montreal forecast for Wednesday November 29th:
High: 15 Low: 4 with Scattered Showers

Enviroment Canada's Vancouver forecast for Wednesday November 29th:
High: -4 Low: -5 with Snow
---
Not fair. Not fair at all! The one time Vancouver will get some snow this year, I'm going to miss it. We never get any snow.

I demand that the federal government immediately resolve this meteorological imbalance. The meteorogical duality of this country is a reality that must be recognized. My right to snow should be equal regardless of wherever I happen to be in my country.

Perhaps an equalization formula can be arrived at where provinces with less snow can have transfers made to them from those with more. However, if a program is devised to increase British Columbia's snow transfers, we should naturally be permitted to opt out with full compensation. After all, snow flakes are not an exclusively federal jurisdiction.

Should the federal government fail to act with the greatest possible urgency, we will have little choice but to form a temporary ad-hoc coalition (to be referred to as the Ice Bloc) until such a time that our grievances and demands can be reckoned with. We will demand that a referendum be held to determine if British Columbians actually do indeed want more snow, and then we will promptly proceed to disregard the results (The rest of Canada's politicians will too, of course).

The House of Commons will officially recognize the distinctiveness of our weather systems, their common history, territory, and molecular makeup, but we of course, while supporting this, will declare it a meaningless act and continue to extract more snow as we threathen to secede and join snowier Alaska.

Eventually though, when grassroots British Columbians and all Canadians start challenging us on the basis of our own fundamental irrationality, we'll learn to get our heads out of the clouds.

We will learn, just as all of Canada will learn, that as the old debates get more heated, our relationships only become colder, and we all lose sight of each other through the blizzard. We will learn that it is indeed possible to warm up to each other without having a meltdown.

That's the hope anyway, that's the dream. Meanwhile though, it seems we, and the ambitions we hold in trust for the people, are just continually snowed in.

In my view, we'll eventually learn that what we need is a few shovels, not more snow.

We'll learn when Canada stops throwing snow at us!

Bruce Lyth unilaterally secedes from IggyNation

http://www.brucelyth.blogspot.com/2006/11/canada-is-my-nation.html

Nelly Furtado - "Say It Right" eh?

"Say It Right"

In the day
In the night
Say it right
Say it all
You either got it
Or you don't
You either stand or you fall
When your will is broken
When it slips from your hand
When there's no time for joking
There's a hole in the plan

Oh you don't mean nothing at all to me
No you don't mean nothing at all to me
But do you got what it takes to set me free?
Oh you could mean everything to me

STUNNING! Never underestimate the ability of separatists to look completely ridiculous!

Wow, as the individual who sent me this mentioned, I guess they "got the message!"

I'll certainly concede that this has now officially been disastrous for the separatists. It's a short-term coup, to be sure, and a big one at that.

What has essentially happened is that a really negative direction has been taken, but we at least scored a big one on the separatists in the course of it being taken, for now anyways. It is and has always been the concern of people like me however that the mid and long-term consequences might be far, far less favourable....

It is still unfathomable and insane that Canadians have no say, their parliamentarians get hardly the scarcest chance for debate, and no one has the slightest clue what the resolution actually means or what its consequences are!

Le Bloc appuiera la motion Harper sur la nation québécoise dans un Canada uni
Source: La Presse Canadienne
Nov 24, 2006 11:09

OTTAWA (PC) _ Le Bloc québécois a fait volte-face, vendredi, et a finalement décidé qu'il votera en faveur de la motion du premier ministre Stephen Harper qui reconnaît que les Québécois forment une nation "au sein d'un Canada uni".

Après avoir dénoncé au cours des deux derniers jours le texte présenté par le gouvernement conservateur parce qu'il posait une condition à la reconnaissance d'un fait, le chef du Bloc, Gilles Duceppe, s'est rallié aux trois autres partis fédéralistes.

"Objectivement, le Québec fait partie du Canada", a déclaré M. Duceppe dans un discours aux Communes, lors du débat sur la motion du premier ministre.

Si la Chambre des communes reconnaît les Québécois comme une nation, "cela est un grand progrès", a noté le chef bloquiste, tentant du coup d'en récupérer le mérite en ajoutant que "le Bloc a réussi à faire reconnaître la nation québécoise".



Bloc to support Tory motion on Quebec nationhood
Updated Fri. Nov. 24 2006 12:10 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

The Bloc Quebecois will vote in favour of a Tory motion recognizing the Quebecois as a nation within a united Canada.


Bloc Leader Gilles Duceppe made the announcement on Friday, saying his party will support the motion initiated by Prime Minister Stephen Harper earlier this week.


The motion upstaged a similar one by the Bloc, which had initially called for recognition of Quebec as a nation but without mention of Canada.


The Bloc amended its motion to read that Quebecers are a nation "currently within Canada.''


A prominent aboriginal leader, meanwhile, is saying the news smacks of Meech Lake.


Assembly of First Nations Grand Chief Phil Fontaine told The Canadian Press that just like when the Meech Lake Accord was being formulated more than a decade ago, Canada's aboriginals are being denied input into what could be a historically significant change to Quebec's status within Canada.


When asked about the issue after a press conference in Toronto on Friday, Harper said his preference ever since he became prime minister was to leave the definition of Quebec nationhood up to the Quebec National Assembly.


"But it was the Bloc Quebecois that ultimately insisted that the Parliament of Canada make this decision, and it was the Bloc Quebecois that came forward with a resolution that, while flawed, had some important elements in it," he said.


First of all, continued Harper, the resolution didn't ask for anything for Quebec -- which is a legal jurisdiction.


"What it asked was a recognition of the Quebecois, which is a group of people; a sociological and cultural group. And obviously that made it much easier to deal with."


More later . . .

All's Well(s) in the land of legitimacy?

Since Macleans' Paul Wells was generous and kind enough to highlight it:

http://weblogs.macleans.ca/paulwells/

November 23, 2006

Long knives: collect the whole set

Is young Braeden Caley the only guy pointing out that the Harper resolution in Quebec's "nation" is likely to pass over the objections of most Quebec MPs? O, humiliation!


I'll repost my argument here. No one has provided a reasonable answer to this even yet.

Does anyone else find it remotely ironic that most of Quebec's representatives will be voting AGAINST a resolution to define Quebec as a Nation?

If some of those among us think that the 1982 constitution is illegitimate because a majority of Quebec's representatives in their provincial legislature voted against it, wouldn't those same people contend that the same principles of federalism would dictate that this resolution will be "illegitimate" because a majority of Quebec's representatives in the House will have voted against it?


On an only slightly different note, I think this simply goes to show that no matter how hard you try, you will NEVER satisfy separatists.

Look at the state of debate in the Commons right now! Is it really a "masterstroke" on Harper's part that the debate is essentially now whether Quebec is a nation within Canada, or not?

I understand the crucial need for an attitude of and respect for compromise, but sometimes I do worry that if you give an inch, they'll take a country.

UPDATE: Unless they have no political savvy whatsoever!!!!! See post above! The separatists are supporting it now, meaning that at least this horrible lose-lose situation has been made an even bigger negative short-term nightmare for separatist forces.

Shams, drudgery, broken dreams...

To quote Trudeau once again:

"With all of its shams, drudgery, and broken dreams, it's still a beautiful world. Strive to be happy."

Thursday, November 23, 2006

Trudeau to the power of two...

It isn't just Justin any more:

Yesterday, Mr. Trudeau's younger son, Alexandre, issued a written statement saying that anyone who believes his father would have supported Mr. Ignatieff's views "couldn't be more wrong."

-From the Globe and Mail

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Alexandre Trudeau issued a written statement saying that anyone who believes his father would have supported Ignatieff's views "couldn't be more wrong." He said it's "more objectionable still" to suggest that his father "would, like Ignatieff, deal in vacuous terms meant to appease emotions."

...

Alexandre Trudeau was having none of it. He said his father would never have supported Ignatieff's "paternalistic and empty" recognition of Quebec as a nation.


Moreover, he said the term nation cannot be strictly symbolic; it either "signifies a sovereign country, as in the United Nations" or it signifies a "cultural collective."


If it's a cultural collective, Alexandre Trudeau questioned how only Quebec can be recognized as a nation, and not other collectives such as "Mohawks, Jews, Arabs, Sri Lankans, Guatemalans, Crees, Irish, English, German and French descendents."


"One might be able to argue for a French Canadian nation. One might be able to argue for a state of Quebec. But arguing for the Quebec nation to the exclusion of the myriad of other nations of Canada is absurd for someone who aims to lead Canada," he said.


"It takes no son of Trudeau to know how foreign to him is the idea of allowing Canadian nation building to proceed along the path of ill-defined collective recognitions and entitlements as opposed to the clear rights of free individuals, each capable of being many nations or of none."

-From Macleans.ca and the CP Wire

Wednesday, November 22, 2006

Harper and Landry: Next step, Independence!

"I can understand Quebec's nationalistic policy which, like all nationalistic policies, has to lead to independence. I can understand this feeling, but I cannot share it."

- Stephen Harper, December 8 1994 – House of Commons

Recognizing Quebec as a Nation will be "beneficial to all Canadians because it will prepare said Canadians for the next natural step: the independence of Québec."

- Former Separatist Quebec Premier Bernard Landry, October 27 2006 - La Canal Nouvelles

Bloc-heads

Does anyone else find it remotely ironic that most of Quebec's representatives will be voting AGAINST a resolution to define Quebec as a Nation?

If some of those among us think that the 1982 constitution is illegitimate because a majority of Quebec's representatives in their provincial legislature voted against it, wouldn't those same people contend that the same principles of federalism would dictate that this resolution will be "illegitimate" because a majority of Quebec's representatives in the House will have voted against it?

Bang/Whimper

“We have to realize that Canada is not immortal; but, if it is going to go, let it go with a bang rather than a whimper.” - a warning from Pierre Trudeau

Beware the threats

Over the course of the next few hours and the next few days, a certain process will begin. People will start to tell you that if you vote a certain way on the nation resolution, that either they will leave our party or Quebeckers' votes will. In short, they will threaten you.

They will tell you that as the only party in Quebec refraining from taking a certain position, we will be condemning ourselves to certain defeat.

Ignore them. Think for yourself. Read your history. Speak your mind, and speak it strongly.

Quebec Nation - Key Questions

Key Questions:

-Will the Bloc vote for a resolution that recognizes Quebecers "constitute a nation within a United Canada?"

-How will backbench Liberal and Conservative MPs vote on this?

-Will the government clarify, as Stephen Harper sought to do after the distinct society recognition ten years ago, what this actually means in terms of the realities of our federal relationship?

-Does Michael Ignatieff feel that this level of recognition is insuffucient, and maintain that it "must" come in the form of constitutional officialization?

-Will the Interim Leader of the Liberal Party refrain from taking a position when the party's membership has a chance to express itself clearly on this crucial topic just a matter of days from now?

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Canada lost something today, a certain dream we have clung to, and a vision we have fought for.

Will we resign ourselves to this setback?

Don't say we didn't warn you...

From today's Montreal Gazette:

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=80c32bce-2427-4436-9afc-7bcf969f0d1c

Bloc resolution would declare Quebec a nation


Motion tabled in House of Commons was sparked by debate raging among Liberal leadership hopefuls


That is the thorny question members of Parliament will be called on to debate tomorrow, after Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe announced yesterday his party has tabled a motion calling on the House of Commons to recognize that Quebecers form a nation.

Pierre Trudeau and the Quebec Nation Resolution - Let's be serious

Some top-level Ignatieff organizers have been running around taking swipes at Justin Trudeau, and now others are asserting in the national media that the late Pierre Trudeau would be endorsing the Quebec Nation resolution.

Why are we to believe that the Ignatieff campaign speaks for Trudeau when Trudeau's eldest son Justin is directly contradicting them?

This shouldn't be a leadership issue! It's a POLICY resolution!

This just strikes me as endlessly ridiculous, and yes, as some have said: desperate. I got so tired of people manipulating Trudeau's opinions and dragging him into the debate on this instead of focusing on the issues that I made a video on the subject.

Here's a summary of what it contained in terms of Trudeau's thoughts (and you haven't seen anything yet!):

PIERRE ELLIOTT TRUDEAU
ON NATIONALISM AND QUEBEC AS A NATION


"In the advanced societies ... where the road to progress lies in the direction of international integration, nationalism will have to be discarded as a rustic and clumsy tool." - Pierre Elliott Trudeau.


“The NDP’s support for the “two nations” doctrine made me give up on it for good.” – Pierre Elliott Trudeau, page 70 of his Memoirs.


“A province is not a nation but a mix of diverse people, differentiated by religion, culture, and mother tongue.” – Pierre Elliott Trudeau, page 73 of his Memoirs.


“I knew that it led directly to doctrinaire separatism.” – Pierre Elliott Trudeau, page 73 of his Memoirs, referring to the idea of the province of Quebec as a nation.


“Certain nationalists, taking upon themselves the role of spokespersons for all French-speaking Canadians, gargle out a few gratuitous statements: “Quebec” wants more autonomy, and “Quebeckers” feel humiliated by the federal government. Like hell they do. These nationalists are speaking only for themselves; they are not “Quebec.” – Pierre Elliott Trudeau, page 107 of his Memoirs.


Trudeau called the Quebec national concept "the new treason of the intellectuals."
"The glue of nationalism must become as obsolete as the theory of the divine right of kings." - Pierre Elliott Trudeau.


Trudeau repeatedly spoke of his dream for a Canada that was "one nation -- one country."


"Canada will be a strong country when Canadians of all provinces feel at home in all parts of the country, and when they feel that all of Canada belongs to them."


"I am closing the door to a solution which would destroy the country. I think particular status for Quebec is the biggest intellectual hoax ever foisted on the people of Quebec and the people of Canada." - press interview, Canadian Bar Association, Quebec City, September 1967


"Let us not confuse the rights of French Canadians with the desire of a provincial government to build a little empire for itself." - speech to Quebec Liberal Party convention, Montreal, quoted in Le Devoir (Montreal), Jan. 29, 1968

Tuesday, November 21, 2006

Prime Minister of Quebec?

Antonio from Fuddle Duddle has tried to assure me that such concerns are "completely" unfounded (and they could well be), but is anyone else concerned that Michael Ignatieff has now taken to calling Jean Charest, in English, the "Prime Minister of Quebec"?

I'm really not trying to unnecessarily make a big issue of this, as I understand that the French wording for the title "Premier ministre," meaning first Minister, is sometimes translated this way when the French is converted to English, but as far as I was aware it is highly unusual for the Premier of Quebec to be called anything but the Premier when referred to in English.

Please feel free to comment to clear this up...

UPDATE: I'm not going to presume to know more about how the head of Quebec's provincial government should be referred to than Quebeckers themselves. However, Jean Charest's English website is http://www.premier.gouv.qc.ca/ and on the english site he only refers to himself as the Premier. His office is also referred to on the site as the "Office of the Premier," just as it is in British Columbia. The only instances I can find of Charest being referred to as Prime Minister is when he is referred to by separatists and on government press releases (and one page) which appear to have been translated from original french versions.

Apparently, Ignatieff is Trudeau, Trudeau is not Trudeau, & Trudeau would dismiss Trudeau.

The familiar "repeat after me" refrain continues with a more negative twist:

Sigh.

Since the Apps essay was supposedly written as a response to my video, I'll say just this - none of us as individual Liberals can take ownership of or claim to best understand Pierre Trudeau's brand and philosophy, except to try to promote it in the best way we can. With all due respect, I'll suggest that we go about that promotion without attacking and disparaging Trudeau's son, which seems lately to have been a common tactic of at least one leadership campaign.

I think what this party (and indeed, this country) needs is renewal and meaningful unity, not a rehashing of old debates and divisive battles.

To emphasize what Gerard Kennedy's been saying, we desperately need some real liberal change.


From: Apps, Alfred [mailto:aapps@tor.fasken.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 8:56 PM
To: Apps, Alfred
Subject: The New Treason of Old Ideas
Importance: High

Dear Friends:
Many of you, knowing that I am both a strong support of Michael Ignatieff and an unrepentant devotee of Pierre Trudeau's vision of Canada, have enquired how I reconcile their two perspectives on the question of 'Quebec as a nation within Canada'. I was inspired to do so when, by happenstance, I ran into Justin Trudeau on November 1, 2006 in Pierre Elliott Trudeau Airport in Montreal. This was immediately after he had been reported in the press as saying "nationalism is an old idea" but prior to his remark that Ignatieff was "intelligent but not wise". I was able to engage him in discussion on the Quebec question for 15-20 minutes. In the course of that, I was struck by two things: the shallowness of his arguments were and how tenaciously he held on to them. After completing my own reflection, I have come to the conclusion that Pierre Trudeau, were he alive today, would endorse Michael Ignatieff's view and dismiss that of his own son.
The attached essay is rather long but, I hope, will prove useful to the current debate. I hope you will take the time to read it and look forward to receiving any comments you might have. Please feel free to forward it along to anyone who you think might find it useful.
Needless to say, the contents of the paper are my opinion only and ought not to be attributed to Michael Ignatieff or to the Ignatieff Campaign.
Best regards.
Martineau DuMoulin LLP Barristers & Solicitors Patent & Trade Mark Agents
Toronto, Ontario
aapps@tor.fasken.com

Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious "Nation" of Canada

Apparently Michael Ignatieff took time out of his busy campaign schedule to see Borat, but didn't give it very strong reviews: "amazingly awful" and "vulgar," he called it.

I'm not quite sure why I find this funny, but I do. I guess it's just that I'm not quite sure what he was expecting...

Meanwhile, Gerard Kennedy will be appearing on CBC with the "amazingly awful" and "vulgar" Rick Mercer next Tuesday. I'll be watching it in Montreal!

Saturday, November 18, 2006

"Canada's New Government" = "Canada's Neo-CONSERVATIVE Government"



In the latest Conservative move to shift taxpayer resources and webspace away from governance and towards partisanship, "Canada's New Government" seems to have adopted the slogan of London byelection candidate Diane Haskett and the Conservative Party and made it their own (or as taxpayers, I guess you could say, our own). Refer to the picture above from conservative.ca, and the picture below from the website of the Office of the Prime Minister, www.pm.gc.ca:


Personally, I don't think Government of Canada websites should be used to promote the agenda (and certainly not the exact word-for-word slogans) of a political party.

Especially not during two byelection campaigns!

Harper just can't seem to understand that he's supposed to be Prime Minister to and for ALL Canadians, not just those who agree with him or think his party's slogans are catchy enough to throw up on a bunch of taxpayer-funded web pages.

Harper should be ashamed of himself, and at least after Canada's Neo-Conservative Government performed so abysmally on the world stage this week, it is clear that Canadians are already ashamed of him as well.

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006

YouTube Federalism

From today's National Post:

Braeden Caley, a 19-year-old supporter of Gerard Kennedy from Richmond, B.C., has made a splash with a video he put together last week criticizing the resolution to recognize Quebec as a nation, which will be debated at the Liberal convention. The piece, which reproduces quotes from Pierre Trudeau explaining the former prime minister's opposition to Quebec nationalism, had been viewed more than 1,600 times by yesterday afternoon.

"I'm amazed at how effective it has been," Mr. Caley said in an interview.

He said he finds some of the blatant attacks ads discouraging. "Sometimes free speech is taken too far and too personal. That's the downside of this, but I think, in general, it's a very beneficial democratization of the process, where anyone can in a matter of minutes or hours upload their personal opinion and broadcast it to audiences who are interested in what they have to say," he said.



It's been called everything from "pathetic" and distortive to "inspiring" and (yes, hard to fathom, i know) "life-changing!" Whatever you call it, Id' certainly agree that it's making a "splash."

As I'm writing this, more than 2000 people have viewed it, which was my second, increased goal for number of views in the lead-up convention.

Now let's up that to 3000.

Keep spreading the word!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sZPUkn1IM

Sunday, November 12, 2006

Quebec Nation video gets fantastic response

http://youtube.com/watch?v=G_sZPUkn1IM

The video I created highlighting the Trudeau perspective on the "Quebec Nation" recognition question has been met with a very strong response on YouTube and across the Liberal blogosphere.

Many Liberal bloggers and delegates actively shared the video, and it has now rocketed up to a point where it has been viewed more than 1,100 times in only 4 days, making it (as far as I can tell) the third most viewed Canadian political video online this week, second only to Ralph Klein's rather crude musings on Belinda Stronach and Bob Rae's bold (cold) lake expedition with Rick Mercer.

I encourage you to keep passing it along to Liberal delegates and alternates and to all Liberals and Canadians in general.

The video represents some important messages and ideas as part of this absolutely crucial debate. Building the Canada of tomorrow will take more than a series of regional outlooks and disjointed perspectives. It will demand the development and presence of a truly national vision and identity - a sense of common cause - and a cultural reconciliation and dialogue that shifts us away from regional senses of entitlement, alienation and division. This, and really only this, can lead us towards true unity, togetherness, and mutual understanding.

Be sure to check it out!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=G_sZPUkn1IM

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Friday, November 10, 2006

HARPER'S AGENDA


(I am increasingly bothered, each and every day, by the fact that this man is somehow Prime Minister of all of Canada...)

The famous "firewall" letter


Dear Premier Klein:


During and since the recent federal election, we have been among a large number of Albertans
discussing the future of our province. We are not dismayed by the outcome of the election so
much as by the strategy employed by the current federal government to secure its re-election.

In our view, the Chretien government undertook a series of attacks not merely designed to defeat its partisan opponents, but to marginalize Alberta and Albertans within Canada’s political system.

One well-documented incident was the attack against Alberta’s health care system. To your credit, you vehemently protested the unprecedented attack ads that the federal government launched against Alberta’s policies – policies the Prime Minister had previously found no fault with.

However, while your protest was necessary and appreciated by Albertans, we believe that it is not enough to respond only with protests. If the government in Ottawa concludes that Alberta is a soft target, we will be subjected to much worse than dishonest television ads. The Prime Minister has already signaled as much by announcing his so called "tough love" campaign for the West.

We believe the time has come for Albertans to take greater charge of our own future. This means resuming control of the powers that we possess under the constitution of Canada but that we have allowed the federal government to exercise. Intelligent use of these powers will help Alberta build a prosperous future in spite of a misguided and increasingly hostile government in Ottawa.

Under the heading of the "Alberta Agenda," we propose that our province move forward on the
following fronts:


• Withdraw from the Canada Pension Plan to create an Alberta Pension Plan offering the same benefits at lower cost while giving Alberta control over the investment fund. Pensions are a provincial responsibility under section 94A of the Constitution Act. 1867; and the legislation setting up the Canada Pension Plan permits a province to run its own plan, as
Quebec has done from the beginning. If Quebec can do it, why not Alberta?

• Collect our own revenue from personal income tax, as we already do for corporate income
tax. Now that your government has made the historic innovation of the single-rate personal income tax, there is no reason to have Ottawa collect our revenue. Any incremental cost of collecting our own personal income tax would be far outweighed by the policy flexibility that Alberta would gain, as Quebec’s experience has shown.

• Start preparing now to let the contract with the RCMP run out in 2012 and create an Alberta Provincial Police Force. Alberta is a major province. Like the other major provinces of Ontario and Quebec, we should have our own provincial police force. We have no doubt that Alberta can run a more efficient and effective police force than Ottawa can – one that will not be misused as a laboratory for experiments in social engineering.

• Resume provincial responsibility for health-care policy. If Ottawa objects to provincial policy, fight in the courts. If we lose, we can afford the financial penalties that Ottawa may try to impose under the Canada Health Act. Albertans deserve better than the long waiting periods and technological backwardness that are rapidly coming to characterize Canadian medicine. Alberta should also argue that each province should raise its own revenue for health care – i.e., replace Canada Health and Social Transfer cash with tax points as Quebec has argued for many years. Poorer provinces would continue to rely on Equalization to ensure they have adequate revenues.

• Use section 88 of the Supreme Court’s decision in the Quebec Secession Reference to force Senate reform back onto the national agenda. Our reading of that decision is that the federal government and other provinces must seriously consider a proposal for constitutional reform endorsed by "a clear majority on a clear question" in a provincial referendum. You acted decisively once before to hold a senatorial election. Now is the time to drive the issue further.

All of these steps can be taken using the constitutional powers that Alberta now possesses. In addition, we believe it is imperative for you to take all possible political and legal measures to reduce the financial drain on Alberta caused by Canada’s tax-and-transfer system. The most recent Alberta Treasury estimates are that Albertans transfer $2,600 per capita annually to other Canadians, for a total outflow from our province approaching $8 billion a year. The same federal politicians who accuse us of not sharing their "Canadian values" have no compunction about appropriating our Canadian dollars to buy votes elsewhere in the country.

Mr. Premier, we acknowledge the constructive reforms that your government made in the 1990s – balancing the budget, paying down the provincial debt, privatizing government services, getting Albertans off welfare and into jobs, introducing a single-rate tax, pulling government out of the business of subsidizing business, and many other beneficial changes. But no government can rest on its laurels. An economic slowdown, and perhaps even recession, threatens North America, the government in Ottawa will be tempted to take advantage of Alberta’s prosperity, to redistribute income from Alberta to residents of other provinces in order to keep itself in power. It is imperative to take the initiative, to build firewalls around Alberta, to limit the extent to which an aggressive and hostile federal government can encroach upon legitimate provincial jurisdiction.

Once Alberta’s position is secured, only our imagination will limit the prospects for extending the reform agenda that your government undertook eight years ago. To cite only a few examples, lower taxes will unleash the energies of the private sector, easing conditions for Charter Schools will help individual freedom and improve public education, and greater use of the referendum and initiative will bring Albertans into closer touch with their own government.

The precondition for the success of this Alberta Agenda is the exercise of all our legitimate provincial jurisdictions under the constitution of Canada. Starting to act now will secure the future for all Albertans.

Sincerely yours,


Stephen HARPER, President, National Citizens’ Coalition;
Tom FLANAGAN, professor of political science and former Director of Research, Reform
Party of Canada;
Ted MORTON, professor of political science and Alberta Senator-elect;
Rainer KNOPFF, professor of political science;
Andrew CROOKS, chairman, Canadian Taxpayers Federation;
Ken BOESSENKOOL, former policy adviser to Stockwell Day, Treasurer of Alberta.

* This letter represents the personal views of its authors and not those of any organizations with
which they are or have been connected.
(As published in the National Post on Jan. 24, 2001, headlined "An open letter to Ralph Klein")

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HARPER IN SECRET BACKROOM DECENTRALIZATION TALKS!

PM eyes limits on Ottawa's powers
Holds talks with several premiers
May mean change to Constitution
Nov. 10, 2006. 05:37 AM
SEAN GORDON
QUEBEC BUREAU CHIEF

THE TORONTO STAR



MONTREAL—Prime Minister Stephen Harper is discreetly sounding out some provincial premiers about setting formal limits on Ottawa's powers, even if it means possibly reopening the Constitution, sources say.

While discussions are at a preliminary stage, officials in Ottawa and several provinces suggested constraints on the federal spending power could eventually take the form of a constitutional amendment explicitly restricting Ottawa to its own areas of exclusive jurisdiction — a move that would reshape federal-provincial relations.


READ MORE HERE:
thestar.com/ (Article Link)


To me, this an example of a Prime Minister vastly overstepping his rights as head of a minority government. Of course though, his consistent allies in the Bloc Quebecois would surely push for this.

Sound the alarm folks, I can smell "firewalls" burning.

Wednesday, November 08, 2006

BREAKING NEWS: RUMSFELD TO RESIGN

"U.S. President George W. Bush is to announce that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is stepping down from his post." -CNN

Goodbye and good riddance, Don...

Quebec as a Nation: New Perspective

Recognizing Quebec as a nation - is this sensible or even popular policy? This video highlights some of the late Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau's quotes and writings on the idea of Quebec as a nation and nationalism in general. It is a response to the Quebec Nation resolution which Liberal delegates will be debating and voting on at their upcoming leadership and policy convention. The frontrunning candidates in the race, of course, are Michael Ignatieff, Bob Rae, Gerard Kennedy, and Stephane Dion.

Monday, November 06, 2006

Justin Trudeau on Nationalism

Trust YouTube to always find the videos one looks hardest for. Here's Justin Trudeau, son of the Rt. Hon. Pierre Elliott Trudeau, on the Quebec "nation" issue.